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Arathas the great · Oct 27, 2006, 02:10 AM // 02:10

hey guys, does anyone know a good tanking build but also damage doing? ive always been attacking casters and i always seem to get killed so fast from warriors and assasains especially, and im not sure what type of build i can use to counter these guys.

**Marty Silverblade** · Oct 27, 2006, 06:07 AM // 06:07

You want to tank in PVP? That doesn't work. People are smart enough to realise that attacking a warrior that has at least 2 monks focus healing him isn't going to work.

Warriors in PVP are for damage. If you must, then take Riposte and/or Deadly Riposte to turn away melee attackers

Effigy · Oct 27, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57

Tanking skills are pointless, even in RA. They only matter against total scrubs. Most people will attack warriors last unless they frenzy or overextend, and even then they will stop attacking once they see you use a defensive stance.

A Leprechaun · Oct 27, 2006, 02:15 PM // 14:15

^ this is true
but suprisingly i see a lot of warriors now-a-days in AB using [skill]Gladiator's Defense[/skill] o.0

~A Leprechaun~

Arathas the great · Oct 27, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17

ok thx. also does anyone know any build that counters assasain builds that drain health fast like the condition/poison build?

around · Oct 27, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20

[skill]Plague Touch[/skill]

LightningHell · Oct 28, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54

Kite.

EDIT: And Healsig. Plague Touch as said above helps too.

Silent Hunter Xx · Nov 01, 2006, 05:05 AM // 05:05

hmm well i use a hammer KnockDown build which works very well
BackBreaker {Elite}
Counter Blow
Hammer Bash
Shock
Wild Blow
Flurry
Heal Sig
Rush (For AB)
Res Sig (For TA,RA,HA)

Use Flurry to get your Adrenline up for BackBreaker and all will fall into place after that

QuixotesGhost · Nov 02, 2006, 11:14 PM // 23:14

If I'm playing a PvP format in which I can't rely on monk support (i.e. RA and Alliance) I generally want 3 things on my bar:

1. A speed booster
2. A Snare
3. A self-heal

When you can't rely on a monk, Running away like a coward to self-heal is the second-best defense you can have.

Effigy · Nov 03, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Hunter Xx

hmm well i use a hammer KnockDown build which works very well
BackBreaker {Elite}
Counter Blow
Hammer Bash
Shock
Wild Blow
Flurry
Heal Sig
Rush (For AB)
Res Sig (For TA,RA,HA)

Use Flurry to get your Adrenline up for BackBreaker and all will fall into place after that

This is a passable build, but there are a couple things I'd change. First, I don't think 3 KDs is really necessary in an RA build, especially if you're using Backbreaker. You should be able to kill your target or come very close with one combo, as the monk support tends to be very weak. Therefore, I'd drop Hammer Bash and take Mighty Blow to add a little more punch to your chain. Anyway, I wouldn't recommend taking a "lose all adrenaline" skill with Rush, because you need a cancel stance after your chain. Which leads me to the second point...

Drop Flurry for Frenzy (except maybe in AB, which is almost like PvE). Frenzy is crucial for dishing out a truckload of damage in the minimal amount of time so the target doesn't have much opportunity to be healed. It also allows you to apply heavy pressure when you aren't being targetted. It also is more energy efficient than Flurry. The only stipulation is that you need to be able to cancel it at will, which means you need Rush charged, which means you can't use Hammer Bash. Anyway, with Backbreaker, Shock, and Stoneskin Gauntlets, you already have 6 seconds of consecutive KD. That should be enough to ruin someone's day.

If you're worried about blocking/evasion, Irresistible Blow > Wild Blow, especially when you need to charge 10 adrenaline for BB. Even so, I think IB is a little energy intensive on a warrior primary, since you'll already have 3 energy skills even with Rush in place of Sprint. Better to just switch targets if someone has block/evade skills on them. I'd pass on Counter Blow as well.

So, here's what I'd recommend:

W/E or W/N
14-16 Hammer Mastery (let's not go into the superior vs minor debate right now)
10-11 Tactics
9 Strength
leftovers in Air Magic (if W/E)

Backbreaker {E} or Devastating Hammer {E}
Crushing Blow
Mighty Blow or Fierce Blow
Frenzy
Rush
Healing Signet
Shock or Plague Touch
Ressurection Signet